As a change, I'm going to drop the educated politics bit and just speak from the heart on this one. The language may end up a bit crude, and if that offends you, stop reading now.
Do you want to know the number one reason this country is in a shambles right now? Partisan bickering. Neither party really has a central cause to rally for, and instead they waste time and money bickering amongst themselves. The Democrats did that! The Republicans did the other!
You know what, fuck you both.
I am completely sick of the partisan bickering. This country will only suffer from both parties playing the blame game. We're in a quagmire of a war(s), the economy is collapsing around us, and all either major party can think to do is place blame? What the fuck? Seriously... if ever there was a time to work together and find a solution, it's now. Yeah, the election is in three weeks. Yeah, Obama is likely to win it (unless, of course, Diebold has their way, with all of the vote tampering machines). Both major candidates would gain a lot of votes if they just fucking sat down and tried to find solutions to the domestic problems. Let's stop arguing and actually do something!
Right now, on the major party ticket, I'm faced with "The Democrats destroyed the world, vote for McCain/Palin" and "The Republicans destroyed the world, vote Obama/Biden". The simple fact is that neither of these fuckers want to actually sit down and discuss the matters like rational adults. Both candidates strike me as petty schoolchildren, trying to get another classmate in trouble over things that don't really matter.
The fucking bickering and resultant political spin is mind-boggling. I refuse to vote for anyone with a four-year-old's mindset when it comes to politics - particularly when the country is in the shambles it's in.
Honestly, how can any person that's educated themselves on the issues at hand really vote for either major party candidate, after both have repeatedly proven themselves to be nothing more than bickering schoolchildren? There's a huge difference between healthy debate and just looking like an ass.
Vote third party. Make your vote count against the major parties. No third party candidate is going to win this election. Votes for the third party candidates will count as votes against both of the major party candidates. At least, once the shit really hits the fan, you'll be able to say that "I voted against both Obama and McCain". Draw notice to the third party candidates. Vote the shit out of them. Vote with your heart and conscience, and not for the "lesser of two evils."
Make a fucking stand.
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
Monday, October 13, 2008
Nonpartisanship isn't enough...
I find it amusing that every article I submit to various forums always seems to get voted out because my politics aren't popular.
If you're a return reader to this blog, you likely understand what I mean.
I'm a Libertarian. I'm an American. I'm a humanitarian. I believe in nothing more than our basic Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Even with this, I'm often times relegated to fringe groups or called an extremist. The funny thing is that what I'm calling for is no more or less than the average American is calling for. We all want freedom and happiness. No major party is offering it, yet Obama seems to be the leading choice for president.
Obama, while he's highly charismatic and full of social integrity (I'd love to go out and get to know him personally... I'd probably call him a good friend), I still think his socialist views are one step too far towards Communism. Socialism is the springboard to Stalinist Communism.
McCain/Palin... don't even get me started. Worse than four more years of Bush policy, if they enter office, we'd be after a near indefinite period of fascism (considering how easy it is the lift the Constitution now, thanks to Dubbya...).
Either way... let's cast off the partisan politics (If Washington could, we might actually like our government). Let's solve the issues at home. The government doesn't seem willing to do so, so let's create the solutions on our own and then try and force Washington to pass them.
I don't care what political affiliation you are, let's hear your issues. Let's all look at them without any political gains in mind.
We're all Americans here. Let's be American. (Obvious exceptions made to you non-American readers - I just want to energize the Americans to do a whole lot better than our last voter turnout, at something like 40%).
If you're a return reader to this blog, you likely understand what I mean.
I'm a Libertarian. I'm an American. I'm a humanitarian. I believe in nothing more than our basic Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Even with this, I'm often times relegated to fringe groups or called an extremist. The funny thing is that what I'm calling for is no more or less than the average American is calling for. We all want freedom and happiness. No major party is offering it, yet Obama seems to be the leading choice for president.
Obama, while he's highly charismatic and full of social integrity (I'd love to go out and get to know him personally... I'd probably call him a good friend), I still think his socialist views are one step too far towards Communism. Socialism is the springboard to Stalinist Communism.
McCain/Palin... don't even get me started. Worse than four more years of Bush policy, if they enter office, we'd be after a near indefinite period of fascism (considering how easy it is the lift the Constitution now, thanks to Dubbya...).
Either way... let's cast off the partisan politics (If Washington could, we might actually like our government). Let's solve the issues at home. The government doesn't seem willing to do so, so let's create the solutions on our own and then try and force Washington to pass them.
I don't care what political affiliation you are, let's hear your issues. Let's all look at them without any political gains in mind.
We're all Americans here. Let's be American. (Obvious exceptions made to you non-American readers - I just want to energize the Americans to do a whole lot better than our last voter turnout, at something like 40%).
Are you too stupid to vote?
The simple answer, no.
Being among those that educate themselves about the issues and the candidates, I've often been annoyed by the uneducated voters, but I would never say that is a reason that they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
I've long felt that voting should be a right to all American citizens, and it shouldn't be taken from anyone for any reason. The government feels differently.
First of all, you have to register before you're allowed to vote. I think this process should be done away with altogether. Registering should be a means of party affiliation, and nothing more. Citizens who do not register should be allowed to vote, though on a non-partisan ballot (essentially the same ballot that those of us who are registered third party would see - the difference would be in the primary, and not in the general). Actually, in that regard, I'd like to see partisanship done away with altogether, even in the primary elections, as the best choice should be an option during the entire process, regardless of party affiliation.
Second, felons have no right to vote, unless they are more than five years after completion of their sentences (this is on a state by state basis, and may not be true in all jurisdictions). This makes no sense either, as many felons are guilty of crimes that may not be crimes under the policies of the candidates they may want to vote in. It's ingrained in the history of this country - criminals and refugees formed this country. We need to let current criminals vote as well. They are no more of a risk at the polls than the other 80% of uninformed voters that vote anyway.
Third, and this is what offends me the most, it's been suggested that uninformed voters have no place at the polls - furthermore that a political test should be required before people are allowed to vote. This was most recently highlighted in a 20/20 segment. Banning uninformed voters, while it may lead to better overall leadership, would bar roughly 70% of the voting public from the polls. That is not a democracy. That is an elitist government, with decisions made only by the chosen few.
I've always felt that voting should be a right and not a privilege. The issue is not the voters - it's the voter education. The voters should never be held at fault for their lack of education - the educational system should be held at fault - and I'm not just talking grade school here - I'm talking about the media-driven voter education. While media outlets only highlight the talking points of either candidate, and refuse to remain non-partisan, no proper voter education can occur.
During the primary elections, all candidates should be given equal air time, regardless of party affiliation or popularity. During the general election, all candidates should be allowed into the debates, not just the two major party candidates.
The public has a right to be informed. More information and less spewing of lies or partisan politics would greatly benefit the average American. Candidates that better represent the country we all love so dearly should be known as well as the major candidates.
Bottom line is that every American citizen should have the RIGHT to vote, and the media is to blame for not educating the American public on all of the choices out there.
Being among those that educate themselves about the issues and the candidates, I've often been annoyed by the uneducated voters, but I would never say that is a reason that they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
I've long felt that voting should be a right to all American citizens, and it shouldn't be taken from anyone for any reason. The government feels differently.
First of all, you have to register before you're allowed to vote. I think this process should be done away with altogether. Registering should be a means of party affiliation, and nothing more. Citizens who do not register should be allowed to vote, though on a non-partisan ballot (essentially the same ballot that those of us who are registered third party would see - the difference would be in the primary, and not in the general). Actually, in that regard, I'd like to see partisanship done away with altogether, even in the primary elections, as the best choice should be an option during the entire process, regardless of party affiliation.
Second, felons have no right to vote, unless they are more than five years after completion of their sentences (this is on a state by state basis, and may not be true in all jurisdictions). This makes no sense either, as many felons are guilty of crimes that may not be crimes under the policies of the candidates they may want to vote in. It's ingrained in the history of this country - criminals and refugees formed this country. We need to let current criminals vote as well. They are no more of a risk at the polls than the other 80% of uninformed voters that vote anyway.
Third, and this is what offends me the most, it's been suggested that uninformed voters have no place at the polls - furthermore that a political test should be required before people are allowed to vote. This was most recently highlighted in a 20/20 segment. Banning uninformed voters, while it may lead to better overall leadership, would bar roughly 70% of the voting public from the polls. That is not a democracy. That is an elitist government, with decisions made only by the chosen few.
I've always felt that voting should be a right and not a privilege. The issue is not the voters - it's the voter education. The voters should never be held at fault for their lack of education - the educational system should be held at fault - and I'm not just talking grade school here - I'm talking about the media-driven voter education. While media outlets only highlight the talking points of either candidate, and refuse to remain non-partisan, no proper voter education can occur.
During the primary elections, all candidates should be given equal air time, regardless of party affiliation or popularity. During the general election, all candidates should be allowed into the debates, not just the two major party candidates.
The public has a right to be informed. More information and less spewing of lies or partisan politics would greatly benefit the average American. Candidates that better represent the country we all love so dearly should be known as well as the major candidates.
Bottom line is that every American citizen should have the RIGHT to vote, and the media is to blame for not educating the American public on all of the choices out there.
Tuesday, October 7, 2008
Thoughts on tonight's debate
I'm going to cast politics aside for this blog. We all know what McCain's and Obama's respective politics are. There's no need to explore it further. This debate revealed nothing new for either candidate.
What I do want to explore tonight is body language - getting to know and understand someone based on their motions, actions, and facial expressions.
The first thing I noticed was McCain's inability to stay in his chair while Obama was speaking. At first, it was only something I noticed out of the corner of my eye, but it eventually grew into a blatant disrespect for Obama's time on the floor. There was even one point where McCain was in clear focus in the background, communicating via hand signals to someone offstage. McCain not being able to remain in his seat while Obama spoke was highly disrespectful to Obama. This kind of action speaks of a man who is impatient, not willing to hear opposing views, and refuses to compromise. While most people may not understand psychology in this regard, it is still something that has always been well known to be recognized by people, if only subconsciously. People will know. This is not the kind of person we want as President.
Obama often displayed facial expressions of dismay and occasionally even contempt while McCain was speaking. While also disrespectful to McCain, at least he stayed in his seat while it wasn't his turn to speak. Obama's facial expressions were often times ones that displayed elitism (and I hate to use that term, because I truly believe that Obama isn't an elitist) - in much the same way as a group of friends will sometimes sit around watching people and commenting on visual lacks of style of those around them. I can understand this though, as Obama's expressions were often the same as most of us have cast when trying to figure out Republican policies.
I think the most telling part of the debate was actually after the debate ended. I watched the debate on CNN.com, and they showed about five minutes after the debate as the candidates were pressing the flesh with the people sitting in the forum area (I do not yet know if this footage was also shown on CNN's live cable TV footage). Michelle Obama was shown to have been sitting in the crowd during the final question of the debate, yet I didn't see Cindy McCain in that crowd. Post-debate, Michelle Obama was often off on her own talking to people, and was only at Obama's side long enough to show her support for her husband. Michelle displayed a strong showing of independence and illustrated that she's a modern woman that will stand by her chosen husband, yet does not rely on a man for her personal choices. Cindy McCain, on the other hand, appeared from the wings after the debate, and in the brief time we saw her, she was always exactly two steps behind and one step to the left of John McCain - a known display of female submission and subordination to a male figure.
While we're not electing presidential wives, their body language regarding their Presidential Hopeful husbands are often quite telling about their husbands.
Michelle being able to do her own thing, and not relying on her husband for coaching, illustrates that Barack is very trusting of his wife, and allows her to be her own person. He is less of a traditional dominant husband, and more of a progressive male that doesn't mind his partner being her own person.
Cindy illustrated total submission to John. This is indicative of a relationship of the type that often results in extreme spousal abuse, most often with no formal (legal) complaint of the abuse. Cindy's only purpose is to make John McCain look good. She is not allowed to think for herself or be her own person. Once again, John McCain is not the kind of person that belongs in office.
Given this rundown, it's almost a shame that I hate the politics of both candidates - Obama has a great degree of integrity, and if his politics were anything short of extreme socialism (borderline Communist), I'd likely be happy with him as President.
McCain just needs to be further from political office than I am - which is to say, no hope of ever being elected to a political office - any political office - President notwithstanding.
What I do want to explore tonight is body language - getting to know and understand someone based on their motions, actions, and facial expressions.
The first thing I noticed was McCain's inability to stay in his chair while Obama was speaking. At first, it was only something I noticed out of the corner of my eye, but it eventually grew into a blatant disrespect for Obama's time on the floor. There was even one point where McCain was in clear focus in the background, communicating via hand signals to someone offstage. McCain not being able to remain in his seat while Obama spoke was highly disrespectful to Obama. This kind of action speaks of a man who is impatient, not willing to hear opposing views, and refuses to compromise. While most people may not understand psychology in this regard, it is still something that has always been well known to be recognized by people, if only subconsciously. People will know. This is not the kind of person we want as President.
Obama often displayed facial expressions of dismay and occasionally even contempt while McCain was speaking. While also disrespectful to McCain, at least he stayed in his seat while it wasn't his turn to speak. Obama's facial expressions were often times ones that displayed elitism (and I hate to use that term, because I truly believe that Obama isn't an elitist) - in much the same way as a group of friends will sometimes sit around watching people and commenting on visual lacks of style of those around them. I can understand this though, as Obama's expressions were often the same as most of us have cast when trying to figure out Republican policies.
I think the most telling part of the debate was actually after the debate ended. I watched the debate on CNN.com, and they showed about five minutes after the debate as the candidates were pressing the flesh with the people sitting in the forum area (I do not yet know if this footage was also shown on CNN's live cable TV footage). Michelle Obama was shown to have been sitting in the crowd during the final question of the debate, yet I didn't see Cindy McCain in that crowd. Post-debate, Michelle Obama was often off on her own talking to people, and was only at Obama's side long enough to show her support for her husband. Michelle displayed a strong showing of independence and illustrated that she's a modern woman that will stand by her chosen husband, yet does not rely on a man for her personal choices. Cindy McCain, on the other hand, appeared from the wings after the debate, and in the brief time we saw her, she was always exactly two steps behind and one step to the left of John McCain - a known display of female submission and subordination to a male figure.
While we're not electing presidential wives, their body language regarding their Presidential Hopeful husbands are often quite telling about their husbands.
Michelle being able to do her own thing, and not relying on her husband for coaching, illustrates that Barack is very trusting of his wife, and allows her to be her own person. He is less of a traditional dominant husband, and more of a progressive male that doesn't mind his partner being her own person.
Cindy illustrated total submission to John. This is indicative of a relationship of the type that often results in extreme spousal abuse, most often with no formal (legal) complaint of the abuse. Cindy's only purpose is to make John McCain look good. She is not allowed to think for herself or be her own person. Once again, John McCain is not the kind of person that belongs in office.
Given this rundown, it's almost a shame that I hate the politics of both candidates - Obama has a great degree of integrity, and if his politics were anything short of extreme socialism (borderline Communist), I'd likely be happy with him as President.
McCain just needs to be further from political office than I am - which is to say, no hope of ever being elected to a political office - any political office - President notwithstanding.
Monday, October 6, 2008
Secessionism in America
With the presidency of George W. Bush seeming more like the reign of King George everyday and the government, including both of the major party candidates, seeming more and more likely to continue the path of government power and the stripping of citizen's rights that Bush has set into motion, the topic of secession seems to crop up more and more frequently in the various political blogs and news stories.
This country was founded by those that felt the need to secede from a government that didn't serve the needs of the people. Secessionist values created this great nation.
Why is it now that secessionists are cast aside as nutbags, anti-American, extremists, and dangerous?
While most secessionist groups are still fringe elements, not likely to get large local support, let alone national support or the means to forcibly secede (which, in this day and age, is how it'd likely have to be done), they are made up of people who, largely, for whatever reason, desire their own rules and rights - most often those guaranteed in the Constitution, but have lately been removed or destroyed by the Federal Government. The most recent group to announce their desire to secede being the folks on the California/Oregon border, desiring to create their own state, named Jefferson. While this movement isn't a secession from the Country as a whole, it is a secession from two states that the supporters don't feel represent them.
Dear readers, what are your thoughts on secession, be it to form a new state or a new country? It is a right set forth in the Declaration of Independence, as stated here, in the second paragraph of this great document:
(Emphasis above is my own.)
Wikipedia has a fine article on Secessionist movements in the United States here. The largest of such secessionist movements was the cause of the Civil War, in which thirteen states attempted to secede over various issues, the most well known of which was slavery. While the slavery issue was a clear violation of human rights, no Constitutional laws prohibited it at the time, and it was a widely accepted practice in the Southern States - one important enough to Southerners to attempt a secession over. To put it in perspective, is the issue of preserving slavery any less extreme a reason than most of the modern secessionist movements? If anything, it's probably more extreme and controversial than most.
It should be noted that many have interpreted the terms of surrender set forth and subsequently accepted by General Lee on behalf of the Southern States at the Appomattox Courthouse in Virginia stripped the Southern States of their right to once again raise arms against the Federal Government in times of secession. This is still a hotly debated argument among historians, even to this day.
Many have predicted a coming civil war. While the evidence is building that one might eventually happen, the motivation and support of the general population has not yet built to even a fraction of what would be needed for a revolution and subsequent civil war to actually occur.
Final question is this: Secession: a right, or a crime punishable by the Federal Government? Is it time, or is there still the possibility of settling it through the broken system of government that we currently have?
This country was founded by those that felt the need to secede from a government that didn't serve the needs of the people. Secessionist values created this great nation.
Why is it now that secessionists are cast aside as nutbags, anti-American, extremists, and dangerous?
While most secessionist groups are still fringe elements, not likely to get large local support, let alone national support or the means to forcibly secede (which, in this day and age, is how it'd likely have to be done), they are made up of people who, largely, for whatever reason, desire their own rules and rights - most often those guaranteed in the Constitution, but have lately been removed or destroyed by the Federal Government. The most recent group to announce their desire to secede being the folks on the California/Oregon border, desiring to create their own state, named Jefferson. While this movement isn't a secession from the Country as a whole, it is a secession from two states that the supporters don't feel represent them.
Dear readers, what are your thoughts on secession, be it to form a new state or a new country? It is a right set forth in the Declaration of Independence, as stated here, in the second paragraph of this great document:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness
(Emphasis above is my own.)
Wikipedia has a fine article on Secessionist movements in the United States here. The largest of such secessionist movements was the cause of the Civil War, in which thirteen states attempted to secede over various issues, the most well known of which was slavery. While the slavery issue was a clear violation of human rights, no Constitutional laws prohibited it at the time, and it was a widely accepted practice in the Southern States - one important enough to Southerners to attempt a secession over. To put it in perspective, is the issue of preserving slavery any less extreme a reason than most of the modern secessionist movements? If anything, it's probably more extreme and controversial than most.
It should be noted that many have interpreted the terms of surrender set forth and subsequently accepted by General Lee on behalf of the Southern States at the Appomattox Courthouse in Virginia stripped the Southern States of their right to once again raise arms against the Federal Government in times of secession. This is still a hotly debated argument among historians, even to this day.
Many have predicted a coming civil war. While the evidence is building that one might eventually happen, the motivation and support of the general population has not yet built to even a fraction of what would be needed for a revolution and subsequent civil war to actually occur.
Final question is this: Secession: a right, or a crime punishable by the Federal Government? Is it time, or is there still the possibility of settling it through the broken system of government that we currently have?
Thursday, October 2, 2008
Why I'm voting third party
After seeing two debates, one Presidential and one Vice-Presidential, I have absolutely zero love for either major party candidate.
Obama is a Communist. McCain is a fascist.
Obama wants to make government provisions to solve all of the world's ills. McCain wants to continue and expand upon our current policy to create a war-mongering nation without regard for our people at home.
Great - we have an election between Stalin or Hitler. Neither one belongs in office.
After tonight's debate, I'm still writing in a vote for Ron Paul.
Ron, you would have had a great chance, particularly with what's happened in the past month, of getting elected. With all of the partisanship, the people really want you.
Obama is a Communist. McCain is a fascist.
Obama wants to make government provisions to solve all of the world's ills. McCain wants to continue and expand upon our current policy to create a war-mongering nation without regard for our people at home.
Great - we have an election between Stalin or Hitler. Neither one belongs in office.
After tonight's debate, I'm still writing in a vote for Ron Paul.
Ron, you would have had a great chance, particularly with what's happened in the past month, of getting elected. With all of the partisanship, the people really want you.
Repost of my blog from another site - The Vice-Presidential Debates.
I wonder how long it'll take for Palin to make an ass of herself. I wonder how long it'll take for Biden to say something to piss off everyone that values their privacy.
It should be interesting. I'm going to watch it now.
EDIT: Palin's started already. Not even five minutes into the debate, she's fear-mongering and evading the question. She spoke nothing about the actual bailout package, and instead chose to stress the fear the "soccer moms" have about the economy.
EDIT 2: Following is a running commentary - it won't be over until the debate is:
I will say that someone did a really good job on coaching Palin on what to say. She's actually forming coherent sentences tonight.
I find it kind of amusing that Biden seems to forget that it was Clinton's regulations on the financial/mortgage industry - the bills he had passed in order to get lower income people into homes, creating the entire sub-prime market - was what set the stage for the current economic collapse.
Oh shit.... universal health care. I'm totally against it. The government can't pay for their current expenditures. The government expenditures are increasing by billions of dollars a day. How in the world are we going to be able to pay for a health care bill on the order of hundreds of billions of dollars a year? Certainly not with more Fed-Reserv cash printed out of thin air, further driving the value of the dollar into the hole. Taxpayers won't stand for the 60% tax increase that would actually pay for all of the government's spending. When the government can reduce its spending by 50%, I might consider supporting a health care package.
Oil/Energy incentives/tax breaks? Palin, you fail hardcore. Your own husband serves to profit from increased profits of oil companies. You've only profited from oil companies. You're just the same corrupt piece of shit that any other oil-linked Republican is.
Oh shit! Palin just said, "How long have I been at this? Five weeks?" Yeah, you have the experience. *rolls eyes*
Once again on the Wall Street deal... Palin thanks McCain for trying to avert the crisis for years now. Apparently, among the things that she hasn't learned are the generalities or details of The Keating Five, in which John McCain was the most important person in that coverup and carnival of lies that followed, regarding the 1980's Savings and Loan collapse/crisis/scandal.
Ooooh! Climate change! That's a curveball that Palin wasn't prepared for. She's faltering hardcore. I have no fucking idea what she's saying.
Biden doesn't appear to know much about climate change either. To further this point... Biden is all about clean energy, and while that's a good idea - one that I'm all in support of - it's not the cure for climate change. Science has said for years that the planet goes through periodic climate changes. It's part of nature. We're about 20,000 years overdue for an ice age. Global warming is the precursor to an ice age. Sure, human pollution doesn't help, but the planet will go through another ice age, no matter what we do. Learn science, Biden.
Same sex marriage - Palin pulls out the "Well, I have [insert prejudiced group] friends" argument. Neither support gay marriage. Biden expanded on his idea, at least, saying that the definition of marriage should be limited to the definition provided by the various faiths. While I don't agree with it, it was more than Palin said.
Troop withdrawal from Iraq - Biden - supports the 16 month plan. Palin - gunning for McCain's hundred years of war. Wait... Palin: "Talibani"? What?
Oops... Biden just brought out that his son is in Iraq. Big voter points...
Biden just used the term "Homeland" without referring to DHS... that lost points from me. At least he didn't mention nuclear war.
Palin apparently refuses to try and find diplomatic solutions, and would rather attack first - but only after unreasonable demands aren't met.
Biden just unleashed a hell of a rebuttal against Palin's above statements. You just earned the points back, Biden.
Palin, just like, apparently, every other member of our government fails to realize that Israel is a major world threat. Hell, she even referred to them as a "peace-seeking nation". Now Biden is insisting on Israel's peaceful status. Whatever happened to their overt hostility (including nuclear threats) against Palestinians and Iran? Fucking propaganda.
Palin, you want to put government on the side of the people? You're really going to have to change both yours and McCain's views hardcore. Right now, both of your views screw the average American.
Biden - you and Obama are going to provide change? After voting down the Third Amendment? After supporting the bailout bill? After supporting grave injustices against the privacy of Americans? What change are you going to provide? Is Obama going to change his name to Stalin?
These nuclear weapons debates? Palin and Biden both suck. We should just glass the debate venue. Get rid of both of these idiots.
Biden, fuck Bosnia. Fuck Iraq. Fuck Iran. Fuck Afghanistan. Let's fucking save our own country first.
Palin... rebutting Biden's war positions... strong start. I was impressed. She almost sounded intelligent.
Palin, furthering my comments, the Good 'Ol US of A doesn't have the resources to wage more war. Let's spend the money at home. Let's fix our own problems. What we're spending on this war could buy back every foreclosed home in the US. Future funding could make our educational systems the best in the world. It could provide health care for everyone. It could truly make America the greatest country on Earth one again.
Biden - yes, this is the biggest election Americans would have ever voted in... we're choosing between Fascism and Communism. That's certainly a first for America.
How many times has Palin said "everyday working class Americans"? Fuck, this cunt doesn't have anything in common with me besides my base male desire to penetrate her asshole without lube and make her scream like a little bitch. This moron doesn't know shit about average Americans. Main Street, Wasalia doesn't exactly compare with Pratt Street, Baltimore or Broadway, NYC. Someone needs to bitchslap this idiot.
Biden made a brief mention of "early education" - there's a reason that I was reading at age two - private early education. Public schools turned me from a prodigy to a near failure because of my absolute boredom with the inadequate education it provided, even long before the "No Child Left Behind" bullsit.
Ouch... Biden provided a Constitutional overview of the office of the Vice-President. Palin, they didn't show it long, but she had a look of amazement and disappointment on her face while Biden said what he did. I can forgive her, though. She didn't know what the VP did.
How many fucking times has Palin used the term "maverick" as an adjective to describe McCain? Shut the fuck up bitch. Do you actually know anything about your running mate? If McCain was truly a maverick, he wouldn't have caved at every possible opportunity to improve his political career. He's as much of a maverick in politics as I am in brain surgery, suggesting to just remove the brains or morons.
Biden, rebuttal to Palin's maverick quotes... Many points earned. Great "fuck you" to Palin and McCain.
The final question: How to get rid of partisan politics: Both Biden and Palin suggested nothing but partisan politics, under thin veils of non-partisanship. Both are completely unable to see the real problems in America.
The conclusion:
Palin: more of the same memorized quotes.
Biden: False promises. I'll believe it when I see it. You paint the picture, but the beauty isn't yet apparent.
My own conclusion:
Considering that the office of Vice President is only a heartbeat away from the presidency, I paid far more attention to Palin than I did to Biden. Palin was only able to serve up talking points and coached speeches. Palin only really took the lead in one debate, and that was in the war debates, oddly enough. Even though she supports 100 years in the middle east, she, at least, acknowledged that we need to spend some more effort at home. She looked at the camera, which is what I felt earned Obama votes in last week's presidential debates, but it seems that every time she looked at the camera, she only delivered speeches that served to only betray the average American.
Biden never really won my support. He lacked speaking ability, and never really connected with the average American (of which I am - a textbook middle-class American). Biden seemed to be on the defensive more than anything, particularly with the number of times he stated, "Let me rebuke those claims." Biden also never addressed the reasons that educated Americans would hate him - his support for domestic spying.
Honestly, if I had to score the debate in points, based on my comments above, Biden won. I still don't want either of them anywhere near the White House.
This debate only solidified my decision to write in Ron Paul in November.
It should be interesting. I'm going to watch it now.
EDIT: Palin's started already. Not even five minutes into the debate, she's fear-mongering and evading the question. She spoke nothing about the actual bailout package, and instead chose to stress the fear the "soccer moms" have about the economy.
EDIT 2: Following is a running commentary - it won't be over until the debate is:
I will say that someone did a really good job on coaching Palin on what to say. She's actually forming coherent sentences tonight.
I find it kind of amusing that Biden seems to forget that it was Clinton's regulations on the financial/mortgage industry - the bills he had passed in order to get lower income people into homes, creating the entire sub-prime market - was what set the stage for the current economic collapse.
Oh shit.... universal health care. I'm totally against it. The government can't pay for their current expenditures. The government expenditures are increasing by billions of dollars a day. How in the world are we going to be able to pay for a health care bill on the order of hundreds of billions of dollars a year? Certainly not with more Fed-Reserv cash printed out of thin air, further driving the value of the dollar into the hole. Taxpayers won't stand for the 60% tax increase that would actually pay for all of the government's spending. When the government can reduce its spending by 50%, I might consider supporting a health care package.
Oil/Energy incentives/tax breaks? Palin, you fail hardcore. Your own husband serves to profit from increased profits of oil companies. You've only profited from oil companies. You're just the same corrupt piece of shit that any other oil-linked Republican is.
Oh shit! Palin just said, "How long have I been at this? Five weeks?" Yeah, you have the experience. *rolls eyes*
Once again on the Wall Street deal... Palin thanks McCain for trying to avert the crisis for years now. Apparently, among the things that she hasn't learned are the generalities or details of The Keating Five, in which John McCain was the most important person in that coverup and carnival of lies that followed, regarding the 1980's Savings and Loan collapse/crisis/scandal.
Ooooh! Climate change! That's a curveball that Palin wasn't prepared for. She's faltering hardcore. I have no fucking idea what she's saying.
Biden doesn't appear to know much about climate change either. To further this point... Biden is all about clean energy, and while that's a good idea - one that I'm all in support of - it's not the cure for climate change. Science has said for years that the planet goes through periodic climate changes. It's part of nature. We're about 20,000 years overdue for an ice age. Global warming is the precursor to an ice age. Sure, human pollution doesn't help, but the planet will go through another ice age, no matter what we do. Learn science, Biden.
Same sex marriage - Palin pulls out the "Well, I have [insert prejudiced group] friends" argument. Neither support gay marriage. Biden expanded on his idea, at least, saying that the definition of marriage should be limited to the definition provided by the various faiths. While I don't agree with it, it was more than Palin said.
Troop withdrawal from Iraq - Biden - supports the 16 month plan. Palin - gunning for McCain's hundred years of war. Wait... Palin: "Talibani"? What?
Oops... Biden just brought out that his son is in Iraq. Big voter points...
Biden just used the term "Homeland" without referring to DHS... that lost points from me. At least he didn't mention nuclear war.
Palin apparently refuses to try and find diplomatic solutions, and would rather attack first - but only after unreasonable demands aren't met.
Biden just unleashed a hell of a rebuttal against Palin's above statements. You just earned the points back, Biden.
Palin, just like, apparently, every other member of our government fails to realize that Israel is a major world threat. Hell, she even referred to them as a "peace-seeking nation". Now Biden is insisting on Israel's peaceful status. Whatever happened to their overt hostility (including nuclear threats) against Palestinians and Iran? Fucking propaganda.
Palin, you want to put government on the side of the people? You're really going to have to change both yours and McCain's views hardcore. Right now, both of your views screw the average American.
Biden - you and Obama are going to provide change? After voting down the Third Amendment? After supporting the bailout bill? After supporting grave injustices against the privacy of Americans? What change are you going to provide? Is Obama going to change his name to Stalin?
These nuclear weapons debates? Palin and Biden both suck. We should just glass the debate venue. Get rid of both of these idiots.
Biden, fuck Bosnia. Fuck Iraq. Fuck Iran. Fuck Afghanistan. Let's fucking save our own country first.
Palin... rebutting Biden's war positions... strong start. I was impressed. She almost sounded intelligent.
Palin, furthering my comments, the Good 'Ol US of A doesn't have the resources to wage more war. Let's spend the money at home. Let's fix our own problems. What we're spending on this war could buy back every foreclosed home in the US. Future funding could make our educational systems the best in the world. It could provide health care for everyone. It could truly make America the greatest country on Earth one again.
Biden - yes, this is the biggest election Americans would have ever voted in... we're choosing between Fascism and Communism. That's certainly a first for America.
How many times has Palin said "everyday working class Americans"? Fuck, this cunt doesn't have anything in common with me besides my base male desire to penetrate her asshole without lube and make her scream like a little bitch. This moron doesn't know shit about average Americans. Main Street, Wasalia doesn't exactly compare with Pratt Street, Baltimore or Broadway, NYC. Someone needs to bitchslap this idiot.
Biden made a brief mention of "early education" - there's a reason that I was reading at age two - private early education. Public schools turned me from a prodigy to a near failure because of my absolute boredom with the inadequate education it provided, even long before the "No Child Left Behind" bullsit.
Ouch... Biden provided a Constitutional overview of the office of the Vice-President. Palin, they didn't show it long, but she had a look of amazement and disappointment on her face while Biden said what he did. I can forgive her, though. She didn't know what the VP did.
How many fucking times has Palin used the term "maverick" as an adjective to describe McCain? Shut the fuck up bitch. Do you actually know anything about your running mate? If McCain was truly a maverick, he wouldn't have caved at every possible opportunity to improve his political career. He's as much of a maverick in politics as I am in brain surgery, suggesting to just remove the brains or morons.
Biden, rebuttal to Palin's maverick quotes... Many points earned. Great "fuck you" to Palin and McCain.
The final question: How to get rid of partisan politics: Both Biden and Palin suggested nothing but partisan politics, under thin veils of non-partisanship. Both are completely unable to see the real problems in America.
The conclusion:
Palin: more of the same memorized quotes.
Biden: False promises. I'll believe it when I see it. You paint the picture, but the beauty isn't yet apparent.
My own conclusion:
Considering that the office of Vice President is only a heartbeat away from the presidency, I paid far more attention to Palin than I did to Biden. Palin was only able to serve up talking points and coached speeches. Palin only really took the lead in one debate, and that was in the war debates, oddly enough. Even though she supports 100 years in the middle east, she, at least, acknowledged that we need to spend some more effort at home. She looked at the camera, which is what I felt earned Obama votes in last week's presidential debates, but it seems that every time she looked at the camera, she only delivered speeches that served to only betray the average American.
Biden never really won my support. He lacked speaking ability, and never really connected with the average American (of which I am - a textbook middle-class American). Biden seemed to be on the defensive more than anything, particularly with the number of times he stated, "Let me rebuke those claims." Biden also never addressed the reasons that educated Americans would hate him - his support for domestic spying.
Honestly, if I had to score the debate in points, based on my comments above, Biden won. I still don't want either of them anywhere near the White House.
This debate only solidified my decision to write in Ron Paul in November.
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